Bouquets and Brickbats
CALIFORNIA: Praise the Lord! I knew I wasnt alone, but it sure is a blessing to find someone else publicly standing up t the "pedigree pushers." Ive been fighting the same battle here in California for some time.
Bro. __________ sent me copies of the April through September issues of The Grace Proclamator and Promulgator. You have done an exceptional job of sticking to both the Scriptures and history in your debate with Bro. Joe Wilson.
ILLINOIS: I am enjoying your writings and am looking into the things you are exposing. Thank you.
CALIFORNIA: I am a Christian who has been blessed by your newsletter. Your ministry has truly been a blessing to me and to the believers with whom I share the information. Keep up the good work.
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INDIANA: Just a note to say how much I appreciate much of what you write.
The Nov. 1 issue arrived a couple of days ago. In the "brickbats section" the one under WWW is a good example of the shallowness and confusion generated by groups [and emphasis like theirs] that is so prevalent today in Christendom. Some of his statements are so far from biblical truth that one wonders how a true believer could even say them. And SUCH ideas are widespread in fundagelicalist circles, and increasingly so,in my opinion.
So, be encouraged, my brother. Your work is very worthwhile and much needed.
VIRGINIA: You will never know how will your tapes and paper are enjoyed. Keep up the good work and may the Lord richly bless you.
NORTH CAROLINA: My pastor recently let me borrow his copy of The GP&P and I would like to receive them also.
MISSISSIPPI: I just thought that I would let you know that I really did appreciate your article about the church rescinding the membership of some of its members. Isn't it amazing how far modern day Pharisees will carry their new brand of "Landmarkism". But I guess when you go about to establish your own laws concerning church order you have to keep making them up as you go. Whenever you totally disregard the pattern of the New Testament all you have left are the precepts of men and they can come up with some tangled webs indeed. This case that you have written about is a classic example.
Another thing that this case brings to light is the danger of individuals or churches blindly following the advice of preachers. We have some preachers in our midst who have set themselves as bishops or popes over churches and other preachers. Whatever these self appointed bishops say is taken as gospel truth without any regard to Biblical principle or precept. The idea is that a thing must be right simply because brother so and so said that it was true. What ever happened to simply checking with God's Word to see if a thing is so or not? I will never understand this mentality of blindly following the advice of a self appointed authority and completely ignoring God's Word.
I believe that this one thing has caused more harm to the churches in our generation than anything else. I think that you have exposed some of this in your articles and discussions concerning how churches are started. It does not take very long for the thoughts and ideas of some preachers to be accepted as laws that are to govern churches. Then, those that will not go along with these man-made laws are regarded as heretics and those who blindly follow the precepts of these men are regarded as orthodox. It really is a tangled web.
WWW: I have been a born again Christian for over 20 years now. I read your article on Promise Keepers and James Dobson while I was searching for Wake up Call dates for Promise Keepers. I have gone to 4 out of the last 5 conferences in my tri-state area and admit I really love the worship, but last year at Stand In The Gap in D.C. I got a very uneasy feeling when they started talking about going global. The first thing I thought was, Oh no!
I have been looking for some more information on the Board of Directors for P.K. I've read some disturbing material on one of them, namely James Ryle. If you have any more information on him or any other board members please send them to me e-mail. I read the book Counterfeit Revival by Hank Hanegraff and he mentioned James Ryle in the as being on the board. I don't have the book in front of me so I don't recall exactly what he had to say but I know he [Ryle] claimed to be a prophet by prophesying and saying that prophets of today aren't judged by their accuracy but by their lifestyle. Please send more info if you have any. Thank you very much!
WWW: I found your web page recently and have marked it as one of my "favorites". My wife and I are born-again Christians and find your lengthy articles on the "Promise keepers" organization to be very enlightening. I attended one PK convention in Oakland, CA, several years ago and was somewhat turned off by the moneymaking aspects I observed with the organization. Now you and others have opened my eyes to the many false and deceptive aspects of the organization. I will have nothing to do with "PK". Thank you for your excellent information you have provided.
I have a problem maybe you can help me with; We attend a A/G Church and the ministry is pushing a men's group called" Honorbound", which is a direct take-off from the PK organization. Most of the men are getting involved and I am not! I need to present our Pastors with the truth but I need to be careful and I want to have all my facts straight and to present this truth in Love! How do you suggest that I proceed? The "Honorbound" concept comes from the A/G headquarters and the A/G organization is pushing P/K. Would it be easier for us to find another Church that focuses on true Bible teaching and is not supporting the false teachings of the PK organization? There are so many false teachings in these last days! My wife and I are trying to be careful and research every new organization and teaching we hear by what the Bible says. Many are being deceived in these last days!!! Thank you again for all your help.
MISSISSIPPI: I wanted to let you know I really appreciated your article on the Tangled Webs men weave. It was right to the heart of a needed discussion.
ILLINOIS: Keep up the good work on the PK subject. It sure is strange how "hateful" some of these "do-gooders" are, isn't it? Don't grow weary in well doing.
Most men in our churcha solid Bible church until PK appeared on the sceneattended a big PK rally in Plain City, Ohio. At that meeting a man got up and wasted about twenty minutes on how we should take up an offering for Russell Means, a Native American Indian who had been radicalized by the communists at Wounded Knee, South Dakota. By the time he got through I was steaming, and walked out of the meeting. I told them that I didn't need to hear the spoutings of a left winger about communist Indians.
OHIO: [Editors Note: I have warned our people and the readers of this paper of the danger of the PKs. Not long ago I told our people that the day would soon come when some pastors who have remained silent or have supported the movement would rue the day they did so. Read this letter that appeared in a Baptist Paper out of Knoxville, TN, Lion of Judah, January, 1998, on page 8. The paper was given to me today, February 19, 1998, by one of our members here at PHBC. ]
For about two years now, all we have heard around our church is Promise Keepers! The PK group has taken over our men's ministries, and now it's called Promise Keepers encounter group. The prison ministry is all PK, and others like myself have been excluded, in spite of my forty years of successful prison ministry. If one is not a Promise Keeper in our church, one is marked and shunned by the PK's.
After my walking out of the PK meeting, I was severely ridiculed and criticized by the PK point man in our church. This was at least two years ago. Finally, the pastor of our churcha fine man and a Word preachercame to my home yesterday and we had about a two-hour discussion on PK.
To my great joy and surprise he told me, "I am getting a little bit apprehensive about PK." He wanted me to tell him and show him (give him), all the material I have on PK. He told me that some of the biggest givers in the church are PK's, and that if he came out against any of them they would walk out! Almost all the PK big shots and the point man for PK are, or have been, on the board!
0. VS., Columbus, OH
PS: I attended one encounter group of the PK indoctrination course where the merits of "breaking the ice" technique was discussed and approved: How many times did you have sex last week; have you ever had any homosexual thoughts; what kind of underwear are you wearing right now. Other steamy questions of a very, very personal nature were urged to be asked. I have reached with good results, about two or three men who were rabid PK supporters.
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